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Nigel
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« on: July 02, 2023, 11:34:59 PM »

Hi all,
Its been highlighted by Ian that doing a Goodwood Track day without a proper
baffled sump could cause injury.

I was fortunate to acquire a sump pan from Peter a while ago and an image is below.

I'm wondering if a 'simple' addition to this pan is required, or whether this existing set up is
the factory solution to the known issue.


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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2023, 11:49:20 AM »

I'm pretty sure that is as it comes from the factory. The amount of baffling there is pretty minimal and I remember Guy Croft being totally dismissive of its effectiveness. These are pics of my sump with the OE baffles removed and a BetaBoyz baffle kit welded in:



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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2023, 06:18:00 PM »

Thanks Graham.

I've decided to withdraw from the event for now, and will work on
a better sump arrangement for the future.

Your photos are really helpful and I'll take a further look at GC's notes
as well.

Cheers, Nigel
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2007 Mazda 6 2.3 [current daily, highly recommended]
The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2023, 10:32:37 AM »

Nigel,

The Betaboyz baffle kit is based upon (i.e. 'liberated from') Guy Croft's original work. GC did actually come up with a revised version which works even better, but declined to put details out in the public domain. I'll see if I can find a link to the photos.

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2023, 11:02:15 AM »

Hi Nigel,

I've tracked down the photos of GC's revised/updated Beta sump baffling. The conversation (and pictures) can be found here:

https://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3451&p=24055#p24055

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2023, 05:24:17 PM »

Graham,
Brilliant, many thanks.

Nigel
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