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« Reply #400 on: January 29, 2025, 10:01:59 AM »

A brand new Beta....!
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« Reply #401 on: January 29, 2025, 05:24:57 PM »

And you did not think you would be on the road before me….. I think you will be way ahead of me!

Looking really smart I have to say!

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« Reply #402 on: January 29, 2025, 05:58:54 PM »

Haven't touched the engine or box yet.
Some brake parts to be done.
New loom to be designed/made.
No exhaust yet.
Headlights too.
Headlining to sort out.

The list just goes on and one. But it is getting shorter and the big bills are behind me now. I hope.

Guy
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« Reply #403 on: January 29, 2025, 06:23:40 PM »

I have one big bill left to do the paint, then as you down to me, before we go for the tuning etc.

What is your thoughts on the engine/box? Full or partial or no strip down of the engine? Is the box a known one or will you just give it a go and see how it performs? Are you going to replace the clutch while it is out of the car?

On the wiring loom, can you reuse what you have or was it past its use by date?

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« Reply #404 on: January 29, 2025, 08:24:31 PM »

The engine is a Guy Croft motor that's sat for a few years. Maybe 15 (well stored) in a garage so it'd be mechanical suicide not to strip it down, clean it, check it and paint it before reassembly with new gaskets and a few shiny bits. I have a NOS distributor and oil pump and the connecting gear (that's been in stock since I had a 124 Spider). If there is any doubt about the parts they'll be replaced. Full gasket set supplied by Mark.

The gearbox is a VX one, I'll check that over and change the oil as a matter of course. I've also got a spare gearbox (non VX) and I'm contemplating butchering that in an attempt to see if I can get an Alfa Q2 differential to fit. The bloke who bought the Alfa 159 Q4 from me recently has offered to have a look into that with me - it may be a small business opportunity for him?

I'll assess the existing clutch on the engine but the chances are that the plate will be replaced and work done on the flywheel if needed.

On the loom I think it's probably toast. To future proof the car I'm considering another big bill in the form of a Simtek loom and do away with all the fuses and relays and end up with an electronic loom with a lot less connections. If that happens then the original loom is likely to supply little more than special connectors like the ones on the instrument panel and switchgear.

Lots still to do before I get to these jobs. Once it's home I want to sort out some external trim, door handles, latches etc so that the body is better protected in the garage environment. Then a bit of soundproofing. Or a lot. And then a few days on cavity waxing! There are a few parts hanging around the garage that will either be cleaned and re-used or used as pattern parts. That's the fuel and brake lines plus the fuel tank and carpets. Once they're in I'm creating a lot of space on the shelves which means they can go to create even more space to work around the car.

Well, that's the plan, let's see how it pans out!
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« Reply #405 on: January 29, 2025, 10:17:58 PM »

Hi

Interesting on the loom, I did consider using a PDM setup, but balked at the cost it would likely be (I have spent enough to date and know I still have a fair way to go).

On the engine gasket set, what head gasket are you aiming to use?

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« Reply #406 on: January 30, 2025, 08:38:44 AM »

Probably the one supplied in the kit by Mark, it's a decent make, I think it's Payen but it's too cold to go look right now!
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« Reply #407 on: January 30, 2025, 01:44:21 PM »

And it's safely home, tucked up in the garage next to the Stratos replica where it'll be for a while to come!

Where to start?



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« Reply #408 on: January 30, 2025, 02:00:08 PM »

For reliable use a Cometic MLS Head Gasket with new bolts or better the ARP Studs. There is plenty to read on here about it. Also beware cheap spec cam box base gaskets that leak even from name brands. And finally oil seals should be late Fiat spec not raw metal outer cheapies. On valve stem oils seals the turbo spec type are made of a better material to last longer.

Your clutch will be 228 8V Integrale pattern.

Enjoy

Eric 
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