Lancia Beta Forum
November 24, 2024, 07:54:06 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: 2024 Events Calendar http://www.betaboyz.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=92.0
Please feel free to add more.
 
   Home   Help Contact Admin Search Calendar Gallery Articles Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Trying to find the correct alternator.  (Read 6718 times)
0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.
dougdee123
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 96



« on: April 14, 2016, 09:46:17 PM »

I started the coupe after a couple of months without use and the magic smoke escaped from the alternator. There is now 0V across the battery, warning light continuous and voltmeter doesn't get off the stop.

The dead one is a battered Magnetti Marelli 55A type.

I would like to replace it with a 65 A type but the only ones that are immediately available are also 55A types. I do recognise that Mark is selling race type alternators but they seem a bit steep at £205 and £210. Maybe if I can't find find an alternative.

Can anyone recommend a supplier? Or do I just have to keep looking?

All assistance gratefully received.

Doug
Logged
dougdee123
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 96



« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 10:21:50 PM »

Aha!

This looks on the face of it as if it may be the answer. An alternator for a Delta integrale.

http://www.mister-auto.co.uk/en/alternator/cevam-4901_g4_a3934901.html

Would anybody care to offer an opinion on this? It looks like it has the same pulley size and the mountings look as if they should be similar.

Doug

PS I have another related question about the bush in the top adjuster link.
Logged
dougdee123
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 96



« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2016, 11:42:22 AM »

And the final answer is that this is a case of me being too clever for my own good.

When the alternator arrived it was indeed very similar but the bottom mounting had an extra, removable, steel spacer but the show stopper was that the plastic pulley was significantly further from the body of the alternator. The pulley fixings were also different to the original so I couldn't swap them over.

Hopefully I'll be able to return it for a less ambitious alternative.

Doug
Logged
mangocrazy
Legendary Member
******
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 1366


Graham Stewart


« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2016, 06:31:28 PM »

Worth knowing - sorry you had to find out the hard way. Hopefully you'll find a suitable Beta one at the right price.
Logged

1980 Lancia Beta Spider 2000 (S2FL)
2002 VW Transporter T4
2017 KTM Duke 690R
2008 Aprilia SL1000 Falco
1992 Ducati 888 SP3
1988 Honda VFR750F
1980 Yamaha RD350LC
thecolonel
Guest
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2016, 11:37:55 PM »

Pretty sure the astra mk 2 used
the same alternator.
Logged
ketmolnar
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Hungary Hungary

Posts: 2


« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2019, 08:39:48 PM »

https://ketmolnarauto.hu/autoalkatresz-kereses?search=%0946231740
Logged
JohnFol
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 389



« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2020, 10:53:55 AM »

I know this is an old thread, but I have the 65A alternator and the Bosch part number is 0 120 489 142.

Reason I know? Battery has slightly higher voltage when engine turned off than when running so I suspect I have a charging issue
Logged
Nigel
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 963



« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2020, 11:36:37 AM »

I know this is an old thread, but I have the 65A alternator and the Bosch part number is 0 120 489 142.

Reason I know? Battery has slightly higher voltage when engine turned off than when running so I suspect I have a charging issue

I have the exact same unit on my 1984 HPE, so this confirms originality at least.
Logged

1984 2.0 Carb HPE [ex Aus] Grigio Finanza.
2007 Mazda 6 2.3 [current daily, highly recommended]
The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]
squiglyzigly
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 552



« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2020, 08:48:14 PM »

Doug,
Have you considered replacing Just the regulator/brush assembly?
Often the bearings and windings outlast the regulator assembly and it’s cheap and easy enough to replace.

Just a thought.
Logged

VX HPE (resto started Sept ‘21)
Beta Saloon 2.0l s2 1979 (completed July 2020)
Beta coupé VX (completed April 2017)
JohnFol
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 389



« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 09:15:39 AM »

This is something I've also considered. I found the list of parts that constitute the alternator https://www.woodauto.com/bom/33906/BOSCH-0120489142.  Would you also recommend swapping out the regulator as there soon becomes a break even point over a replacement unit.?
Logged
Ammy
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 178


« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 09:57:27 AM »

Surprised to read all thse comments.  I just went along to my local autoelectrics dealer,  Edge in Tarporley, Cheshire , ordered one and picked it up next day ! ! !
Logged
smithymc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 681


« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 10:09:26 AM »

Same here, available to order- I've just been into the garage and taken a pic of the label.

Mark


* thumbnail_IMG_1694 Alternator.jpg (252.92 KB, 960x1280 - viewed 503 times.)
Logged
JohnFol
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 389



« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2020, 11:22:10 AM »

This is what I got from a "live chat" with Bosch earlier. .



* Well Done Bosch.JPG (17.25 KB, 312x356 - viewed 480 times.)
Logged
JohnFol
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 389



« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2020, 11:25:43 AM »

smithymc, I see that's a 55A. I was hoping to keep with the 65A but interesting reading as the part number gives me some more accurate measurements I can compare on web sites
Logged
JohnFol
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 389



« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2020, 10:17:15 PM »

Just had it reconditioned with new brushes, rectified etc. For £90 so a bit of a bargain. Also means 1 less item I  the diagnosis.
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
SMFAds for Free Forums
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!