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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2014, 07:07:43 PM » |
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I once saw a 1800 beta on the island of Phuket. Thought it was a long way from home. Makes more sense now knowing they were made there.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2014, 11:24:30 AM » |
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Info i can find is that Lancia's where manufactured in SA by TAK motors.
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1976 Beta coupe 1800 "Kermette"
1975 Beta coupe 1800 x 2
1974 Beta Berlina 1800
1989 Thema i.e turbo
1988 Thema i.e turbo
Fiat 1500
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2014, 02:51:03 PM » |
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Info i can find is that Lancia's where manufactured in SA by TAK motors.
Confirmed from someone who worked there (pasted from a 2012 posting in the transmission section); '...Also,when working for TAK in Johannesburg, we had a 5th gear syncromesh problem on brand new Volumex's. I saved considerable warranty time by doing it this way. [ TAK bought the cars from Italy without factory warranty,hence the saving] ' Nigel Though this is mentioning assembled Volumex cars. |
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2014, 04:38:52 PM » |
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I know that TAK were the agents for Lancia and Ferrari in South Africa. I will start digging for information. Hoping to pick up the car this weekend
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 06:20:41 AM » |
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2014, 06:23:06 AM » |
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These are the plates from the beta. Can anyone give me an indication of the year this car would be
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2014, 08:05:09 AM » |
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These are the plates from the beta. Can anyone give me an indication of the year this car would be
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2014, 09:05:22 AM » |
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The lmc have a list of beta build dates but it only covers from about 1978 onwards tried to get a copy of this for info on here but unfortunately fiat wouldn't release it to anyone else
, this might show the build date of the CKD kit if not the assembly date in SA. There is no info prior to 78 unfortunately
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 10:11:18 AM » |
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The lmc have a list of beta build dates but it only covers from about 1978 onwards tried to get a copy of this for info on here but unfortunately fiat wouldn't release it to anyone else
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2014, 11:04:50 AM » |
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The info was passed to Barbara longlands by tim speechley prior to his retirement, it includes other Lancia models too.
Always bugged me that I can't access this info as I am a long term lmc non member for personal reasons and will never rejoin, however the info for individual cars should be really available for lmc members and non members are still able to contact fiat uk (I have contract emails somewhere if anyone needs them)
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2014, 05:43:12 PM » |
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The lmc have a list of beta build dates but it only covers from about 1978 onwards tried to get a copy of this for info on here but unfortunately fiat wouldn't release it to anyone else
Hi Neil Are you aware of this list? Peter No, but I'll ask. I thought we only got what related to UK spec cars, if that is the case this car wouldn't be covered. According to 'La Lancia', which Barbara uses for pretty much all her pre-Fiat car dating, 828 BC.1 008264 would be a 2 litre series 2 pre-facelift built between 1975 and 1978. The last chassis in this series would have been 011516, so maybe 1977 for this one? TAK only assembled 264 in total. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2014, 06:36:46 PM » |
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AFAIK they are simply lists of chassis numbers built specific years, no build Info and it is not always possible to determine to exact model for instance late series betas seemingly all followed a single number sequence.
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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2014, 07:50:58 PM » |
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Thanks for all the replies, I suppose I will find out when I go through the terrifying task of registering the car.
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2014, 12:32:13 AM » |
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2014, 08:57:11 AM » |
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The lmc have a list of beta build dates but it only covers from about 1978 onwards tried to get a copy of this for info on here but unfortunately fiat wouldn't release it to anyone else
Hi Neil Are you aware of this list? Peter No, but I'll ask. I thought we only got what related to UK spec cars, if that is the case this car wouldn't be covered. According to 'La Lancia', which Barbara uses for pretty much all her pre-Fiat car dating, 828 BC.1 008264 would be a 2 litre series 2 pre-facelift built between 1975 and 1978. The last chassis in this series would have been 011516, so maybe 1977 for this one? TAK only assembled 264 in total. According to my list seems that 12780 is the last chassis number of that type (  ) |
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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 07:03:21 PM » |
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The lmc have a list of beta build dates but it only covers from about 1978 onwards tried to get a copy of this for info on here but unfortunately fiat wouldn't release it to anyone else
Hi Neil Are you aware of this list? Peter No, but I'll ask. I thought we only got what related to UK spec cars, if that is the case this car wouldn't be covered. Spoke to Chris Hopkins, the LMC Librarian, they only got sales information, brochures etc. No production data. |
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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2014, 08:01:19 PM » |
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Tim speechley told me by email that scans (I think not paper copies) of the available Lancia information had been given to Barbara longlands so someone has it somewhere! I had wanted to get a copy for the beta forum but he only wanted or was able to give it to the main recognised club in the UK
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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2014, 10:08:51 AM » |
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Neil
Tim speechley told me by email that scans (I think not paper copies) of the available Lancia information had been given to Barbara longlands so someone has it somewhere! I had wanted to get a copy for the beta forum but he only wanted or was able to give it to the main recognised club in the UK
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2014, 08:39:51 AM » |
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Neil
Tim speechley told me by email that scans (I think not paper copies) of the available Lancia information had been given to Barbara longlands so someone has it somewhere! I had wanted to get a copy for the beta forum but he only wanted or was able to give it to the main recognised club in the UK
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« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2014, 09:33:36 AM » |
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Yes, despite what Tim said Barbara is adamant that she didn't receive any electronic files from him. She did however get some paper production figure documents which she describes as being in a poor state. She says that the contents of the documents were published in Viva Lancia shortly after their receipt. I don't keep back copies of VL, but if what she says is correct (and I do vaguely recall something) it would be sometime in 2013. I've asked Chris to have a look for me and I'll put something on the LMC Forum.
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