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« on: February 11, 2013, 12:48:24 PM » |
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Alan,
In your vast Beta library and technical info - any chance we could get a list of colour options / paint codes? Even just the options would be a great starting point and the detail can be built up later over time.
This question has come up a few times in the past, I'm particularly interested at this moment in time in Series 1 colour options, but I think everyone would benefit if we had an accurate and comprehensive list to reference online?
What do you think?
If a co-ordinator is required to compile a list of colours and codes specifically for the Beta then I am happy to act in this capacity. It will require forum members contacting me with the details of their basic colour and the paint code (usually on a sticker on the underside of the bootlid / trunk)
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 02:14:17 PM » |
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I can see what I can do, I actually don't have a vast collection there is a lot I don't have! I do have some colour cards though but they don't always identify which year they were specific to. Give me a few days to have a look at it. Reds are very confusing as there are several racing reds with different codes, on your sample you show Bangkok yellow as series 1 but AFAIK it was series 2, series 1 cars were maya yellow (just how sad am I?) anyway I get the idea .........
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 03:37:09 PM » |
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Alan, yes forgive my lack of accuracy!
That should have been S2 for Bangkok yellow.
With the help of all forum members and the original colour charts/options we can build a much better list of colour options and their codes.
Appreciate your input...
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 06:30:07 PM » |
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All
Michael, aka Fulvia 3 has kindly sent me a comprehensive list of Beta paint colours, codes and years. So I am we'll and truly underway.
Many thank Michael this is very much appreciated!!
I could not have asked for a better start to this little project. Once again the forum and its members have already demonstrated what can be achieved when we pool our collective resources.
Watch this space folks....
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 08:54:33 PM » |
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All
Michael, aka Fulvia 3 has kindly sent me a comprehensive list of Beta paint colours, codes and years. So I am we'll and truly underway.
Many thank Michael this is very much appreciated!!
I could not have asked for a better start to this little project. Once again the forum and its members have already demonstrated what can be achieved when we pool our collective resources.
Watch this space folks....
Matt If you send this list on to me I will check it out for you and identify any discrepancies Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 04:03:51 PM » |
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The list is coming along quite well already:
Things that are missing:
1. Colour options from 1972 to 1975
2. Trevi paint options. (Theo - Can you shed any light?)
3. Colour options 1980 to End of manufacture.
I have included two column in the spreadsheet "Supplier Fornitore" and "Sigla / Initials", my Italian is not good but I reckon that Sigla is the paint suppliers own code as opposed to Fiat/Lancias code. These two columns can be built up over time and members can post a picture of thier paint code sticker within this thread or mail it to me direct.
To those of you that have done so already my thanks go to you for such a fast response.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 06:32:35 PM » |
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The list is coming along quite well already:
Things that are missing:
1. Colour options from 1972 to 1975
2. Trevi paint options. (Theo - Can you shed any light?)
3. Colour options 1980 to End of manufacture. In. I have included two column in the spreadsheet "Supplier Fornitore" and "Sigla / Initials", my Italian is not good but I reckon that Sigla is the paint suppliers own code as opposed to Fiat/Lancias code. These two columns can be built up over time and members can post a picture of thier paint code sticker within this thread or mail it to me direct.
To those of you that have done so already my thanks go to you for such a fast response.
Matt I have all that information will send it when I can find time Alan
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 09:07:03 PM » |
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Beta series one
Bianco Saratoga Beige mirabello Verde cascine Rosso York Bleu agnano Marrone parioli Blue lancia Nero Rosso corsa Grigio escoli met Bleu Vincennes met Bronze ascot met Giallo maya (only from about 1974)
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 09:17:32 PM » |
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1976
Dover white Bangkok yellow Sahara beige Dublin green Antibes blue York red Parioli brown Lancia blue Corsa red Escoli grey met Portofino blue met Windsor brown met
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 09:22:18 PM » |
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Series 2 pre facelift colour card undated but guessing later than the above 1976 one
Dover white Ceylon beige Sahara beige Finland green Lipari azzurro York red Parioli brown Lancia blue Corsa red Escoli grey met Portofino blue met Windsor brown met Black
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 09:29:25 PM » |
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Trevi series two and beta volumex coupe / hpe
Bianco Saratoga 224 Blue lancia 438 Ivory 252 Rosso rally 112 Azzurro chiaro 482 Nero 601 Azzurro Antibes 827 Azzurro chiaro met 415 Grigio chiaro met 620 Beige champagne met 510 Grigio scuro met 679 Marrone met 734 Verde scuro met 382
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 09:32:38 PM » |
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Trevi volumex series one
As per Trevi series two except rosso corsa 854 instead of rosso rally
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM » |
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Matt
I do have some more info but no time tonight to dig it out, as you can probably see it all gets very confusing and colours changed within series so not as straight forward as might be expected. Not all markets took all colours and different models were offered in differing selections for instance in the UK it seems that the coupe ie was only sold in red or black but the volumex coupe was sold in red, black,silver,met grey or white but neither representing the full colour range produced.
Early spiders up to series two had some unique colours I'll list these later. Anyway I think you've taken on quite a task.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 10:05:55 PM » |
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Alan
That's great and to be honest trickle feeding the info is probably best, otherwise it's easy to get overwhelmed by all the info.
This is not a five minute project and I think it will be roughly 75% complete then the last 25% will get added slowly over time as little bits of info complete the jigsaw.
Just want to get as much info into one place and male it easy to understand. Not worried about what colours were available to what markets, it is just what colours were available for what model and what their codes were.
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 10:29:41 PM » |
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I'm not sure it will ever be possible to get completely to the bottom of this, colour charts are relatively scarce and often undated. I buy charts whenever I can but only at sensible prices! It is possible that the lmc library could hold more information if you are an lmc member you could try asking (lmc is not my scene so I can't) The upholstery options add another layer and unfortunately these seem less well documented than exterior colours especially with regard to specific colour/upholstery combinations.
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 01:04:03 PM » |
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One thing at a time Alan, interior options may well be done later - but thats way more complicated by different options being available in Europe.
Personally, I do not find this paint info too complicated once it is centralised.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 03:46:35 PM » |
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One thing at a time Alan, interior options may well be done later - but thats way more complicated by different options being available in Europe.
Personally, I do not find this paint info too complicated once it is centralised.
I agree that it will not be too bad the hard work will be checking and double checking accuracy, as regards fabric options there may well be useful info on these in the parts books/fiche as each colour or pattern would have to be seperately identified by different part number
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2013, 10:59:35 AM » |
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Will have another look at this whilst I am sorting out my brochure collection, I think it would be good to include a scan of each colour or fabric within the spreadsheet , eventually of course as that will be time consuming but accurate records for betas are so rare I'm sure it will be worth the effort.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2013, 01:04:15 PM » |
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Beta spider early, not sure if series 1 or 2 or maybe both as the colour card is undated.
Bianco Saratoga 110 Argento Nevada met 170 Beige Ceylon 124 Rosso Brighton met 191 Beige vinovo 190 Rosso capannelle 193
Actually I think it is series 1 as slightly later cars seem to be available in red whereas capannelle is a kind of burnt orangey red
Note that Bianco Saratoga is a different code to that used on late series cars!
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 01:59:37 AM » |
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Not sure if its any use to anyone but I have a series 2 colour and uphostery chart showing the following for coupe hpe (with interior colour choice) (white) Bianco Dover 103 (red or green) (lime green) Giallo Bangkok 112 (red or green) (biege) Biege Sahara 113 (red or green) (green) Verde Dublino 118 (biege or red) (light blue) Bleu Antibes 120 (biege or red) (burgundy) rosso york 126 (biege) (chocolate brown) Marrone Parioli 116 (Biege or green) (dark blue) Bleu Lancia 121 (biege or red) (ferrari red) Rossa Corsa 123 (biege or green) (black) Nero 122 (biege or red) (silver) Grigio Escoli Metallizzato 135 (red or green) (metallic blue) Azzurro Portofino Metallizzato 132 (biege or red) (metallic Brown) Bronzo Windsor Metallizzato 134 (biege or green)
I can send the original chart on if that's of use to anyone.
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