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« on: September 12, 2012, 10:26:22 PM » |
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Are they the same? Does anybody know dimensions of the bushings? I dismantled a spare arms set, and found that they are exactly the same, but looking at the betaboyz offer they seem to be different.
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lukasdeopalenica
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 07:33:42 PM » |
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No one has replaced these elements?  |
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 08:38:10 PM » |
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Yes, many people have replaced these bushes with the versions on sale at Lanciabetaparts.co.uk
The design is different but they work in the same way.
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lukasdeopalenica
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 10:40:29 PM » |
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I supposed that, but originally were they the same at all links or different?
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 06:39:46 AM » |
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Originally the series 1 cars had four adjustable transverse links and the bushes were all the same, when the later cars were produced one pair of transverse link rods were changed to the non adjustable pressed steel style and hence used a different bush to the adjustable type.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 08:27:42 AM » |
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there were actually three different set ups at the rear, some cars, not sure exactly when from but probably early series 2, had both arms fixed but with an eccentric bolt to change the toe in these had two pressed arms per side later cars changed to one fixed pressed arm and one fabricated adjustable arm. The early cars had one fixed fabricated arm and one adjustable.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 12:15:33 PM » |
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Guys, i have a related question. My S2 Beta has 4 non-adjustable pressed steel arms, each of them looking exactly the same.
It's been a while since I pulled them out and currently they're off being powder-coated as part of the restoration, so my question is, is there any adjustment on them?
I've read there's an eccentric bolt but I can't remember.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 12:32:24 PM » |
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MattNoVAT
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 01:28:22 PM » |
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Item Number 14 is the eccentric bolt I think.
My S1 1600 has all four adjustable transverse links, my May 1978 built Series 2 FL has 2 adjustable and 2 pressed steel non adjustable.
Maybe Lancia experimented with the eccentric bolt somewhere in-between?
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 03:03:01 PM » |
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Both my S2 pre F/L have had the eccentric bolt setups with four pressed arms
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lukasdeopalenica
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 04:45:30 PM » |
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Bushings I had removed from an '83 HPE arms (2 pressed fixed and 2 adjustable) were all the same 30x10x30/35mm  |
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 04:42:57 PM » |
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The 84 body of my car had 4 adjustables arm, may be a swap from a s1/s2 car???
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lukasdeopalenica
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 09:56:18 PM » |
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next configuration my '82 HPE has mixed types, similarly to my donor one |
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SAAB 900i 16V Aero, '93 solid black
Subaru Outback 3.0R
Honda CB125 K6 '76 electric blue
Specialized Epic & Stumpjumper
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2013, 07:01:29 PM » |
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Originally the series 1 cars had four adjustable transverse links and the bushes were all the same, when the later cars were produced one pair of transverse link rods were changed to the non adjustable pressed steel style and hence used a different bush to the adjustable type.
With this configuration it seem's the toe in and camber can be adjusted? with earlier version only the toe in is... Someone has adapted 4 adjustable arms on S4 rear transverse? What is the result? |
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