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Title: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: ppr804w on December 30, 2021, 12:19:02 PM
Hi everyone,

I’ve been a long time visitor of this forum but only recently signed up. This forum has been an invaluable resource throughout my restoration, so thank you to everyone who contributes. I thought I should finally say hello to you all and post some details of my car. Some of you may have already read this as Peter kindly linked to my recent post over on PistonHeads.

As a bit of background, the car is a 1981 model and has been in my family since it was a year old and owned by my Mum who used it daily up until 1991 (a year before I was born!). No one can remember quite why it came off the road but it proceeded to be stored in my grandparents garage up until 2013 when my family were discussing scrapping the car. Myself with no prior knowledge at the time, felt it would be criminal to scrap such a rare and beautiful car so decided to try and save it and take on restoring it to its former glory. I had no idea the scale of what I was taking on, but eagerly began.

I’ve taken over 2,000 photos since starting the restoration so it’s been hard to concentrate these down, but I’ve done my best to hopefully show the main ones. The project started in 2013, but due to time and financial constraints it has taken until August this year to get the car restored and on the road.

Unfortunately I don’t have any photos of the complete car prior to starting the restoration. The earliest I have is removing the engine.

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Wings, interior and engine removed. Car pushed outside and saw daylight for the first time in 22 years!

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I started with what I could do and painstakingly remove all the waxoyl and paint from the engine bay and inner wings, then prepped these with paint.

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The rest of the bodywork however was a bit out of my depth, so arrangements were made with a local body shop to complete the rest of the shell.

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Car arrives at the bodyshop and work begins

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Lots and lots of welding takes places around the whole car. I haven’t included any more pictures of this as its quite repetitive! But every time we thought all the rust had been found, some more appeared!

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Welding complete and onto filler/shaping

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Epoxy primer applied

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Ready for top coat

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Top coat is applied!

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I then had the wheels refurbished in a bright silver. I opted for the brightest available since I wasn’t a huge fan of the original colour and felt it would help make them stand out better, especially since they are quite small wheels by todays standards! Also pictured are new (slightly uprated) polyurethane bushes and springs (which were promptly painted black).

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I got as many parts as possible blasted and either powder coated or gold zinc plated, as per their original finishes. Here is the subframe and suspension.

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Then started organising all the nuts and bolts to try and match them up after plating!

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Finally some parts start going on the car! Suspension, brake lines, fuel tank, and more…

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Body mouldings and trims started to go back on

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Throughout all this my Dad had been working on the engine in his machine shop. The engine has been lightly breathed upon with; higher compression, balanced pistons/conrods, gas flowed cylinder head, intake & exhaust manifold work, re-profiled cams and adjustable cam pulleys.


Red oxide primer went on

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Block was painted as close to the original colour as possible, along with the restored components going on

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Engine was now timed up and mostly assembled

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Almost ready to fit!

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Back to the car again… lots of waxoyling took place and sorting out the wiring

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Interior started going together with new custom headlining

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The lights were rebuilt with all their restored components

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The rear lights weren’t in great shape and took many years of ebaying to find a spare lens to replace the cracked indicator (they only ever came on the Spyder so difficult to find)! For some reason this one was covered in overspray before I even started work on the car.

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Cleaning up and repainting the insides

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Restored and ready for fitting

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The following pictures are now all from this year (2021). The big day arrives - engine ready to be installed!

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Engine goes in the car.

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Fuel lines, coolant hoses, etc. are connected up

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All the other components starting to come together

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Car drives outside under its own power for the first time in 30 years! (August 2021)

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Then off for its MOT

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Shortly followed by an alignement

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I then took it to a local car show

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And a few pictures out and about over the past few weeks!

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I would like to just finish this post by giving a big thank you to family/friends who have helped make this possible! I’d also like to give a big thank you to Mark for the many parts he’s supplied over the years.

Thanks for reading. I welcome your comments/feedback!

Dan


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: Sandro on December 30, 2021, 09:16:53 PM
Hi Dan,

Nice to meet you, and welcome. One of the other members was kind enough to share a post with some of your restoration shots posted on PistonHeads.
You've done a marvelous job. I did enjoy looking at the photo's of the car progressing through the various stages, the attention to detail etc.

Nice that you can enjoy it again, pretty much as it was when your Mum got round in it.

Nice work, it must be very satisfying to have it completed.

All the best, Andrew   


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: squiglyzigly on December 31, 2021, 09:56:19 AM
Top quality work and surely a family air loom now.
Did you get to drive it when it was mums car or have you had to wait until now?

Bravissimo Dan


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: WestonE on December 31, 2021, 10:00:53 AM
Lovely work and great to see. Roll on the sunny weather


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: unclejam on May 06, 2022, 03:25:05 PM
Absolutely fantastic work Dan - big congratulations for actually finishing the project, it's the hardest thing to do! 
Now, what's your address so I can send you my Spyder to restore?   ;D
Cheers Chris


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: ppr804w on April 15, 2023, 12:29:46 AM
Sorry for the very delayed reply and thank you everyone for your great comments.

Thought it was time I posted some updates as I've made some changes including seats, coil-over suspension and an electric fuel pump. I'm also in the process of rebuilding some twin carbs which I hope to have on later this month.

I've used the car as much as possible over the last year (weather permitting) and have attached a few photos below.

I'd also love to get involved with any upcoming events and meet some of you guys (sadly I was away on holiday during the 50th Anniversary meet last year) :(


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Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: WestonE on April 15, 2023, 07:04:59 AM
I think many will want to know how you did the coil overs as they offer a way to get rid of rear squat under power. Note I have Custom Gaz Gold, but not a repeatable solution. A great idea to go with white seats on your white car to reduce burnt bum incidents which I remember well from my Black Spyder seats in the sun. This time I have gone with VX Coupe Recaros in the new fabric.

Enjoy Eric

PS those do not look like high Comp pistons. The high Compression items have a visible dome on top.     


Title: Re: Lancia Beta Spyder 2000 - 7 Year Full Restoration
Post by: ppr804w on April 18, 2023, 06:10:37 PM
Hi Eric,

Mine are also custom made by Gaz.

Yes I wasn’t sure if I’d made the right decision going with white seats at first but I feel they really complement the car and are certainly a lot better on the hot days!! That sounds great about your VX seats.

That’s correct about the pistons. The cost of the restoration was mounting up so I decided to stay with the originals in the end. The compression is very slightly higher from milling the engine/head.