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Technical stuff => Body => Topic started by: Gerke123 on December 23, 2020, 08:03:31 PM



Title: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Gerke123 on December 23, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
Hi, i have a Beta Coupé from 1975 that has an integrated foglight. I don't recall seeing any Betas with a feature like that. The foglight is positioned in the middle of the rear bumper.
Do i have a rare version of the Beta? Is the rear bumper itself rare?


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Nigel on December 23, 2020, 08:30:42 PM
Very interesting.

Can you post a pic?


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: peteracs on December 23, 2020, 10:14:25 PM
Hi

Did cars have fog lights fitting as standard in 1975?

As far I know, there is no obvious provision for switches and wiring, other than as an add on which would have been done several years after sale.

Always willing to be educated of course!

Peter


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: rossocorsa on December 24, 2020, 12:14:16 AM
It is rare, I've seen it before and I think it might be in the parts book but it is something not often seen at all


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: WestonE on December 24, 2020, 09:57:12 AM
I have never seen this or heard of it before, which is not something I say often regarding Betas and Montecarlos.

Keen to see a picture.

Eric


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: mangocrazy on December 24, 2020, 10:40:27 AM
My Spider had an add-on rear fog light under the rear bumper (not integrated in it) which looked a bit of an afterthought and never worked properly anyway. I removed it many years ago to clean up the look of the car and stop random MoT fails.


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: peteracs on December 24, 2020, 10:46:52 AM
My Spider had an add-on rear fog light under the rear bumper (not integrated in it) which looked a bit of an afterthought and never worked properly anyway. I removed it many years ago to clean up the look of the car and stop random MoT fails.

I think that was a common fit back in the 80/90s in the UK. One of the scrapped Betas also had this, I think they use one of the unused switch holes near the steering wheel for the switch.

Peter


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Gerke123 on December 24, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
Here's the rear bumper. I'll try to get a better picture of it in a couple of hours. .


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Gerke123 on December 24, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
Some better pictures.


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: WestonE on December 24, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
Now that is something I have never seen before on a Beta. Here on early cars there was a single fog light on a bracket hanging from the right bumper mount. On later IE & VX twin fog lights hanging from brackets fitted to the lower edge on the wrap round bumpers.


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Gerke123 on December 24, 2020, 02:35:15 PM
Some information about the car, it's production number is 9500 and it was a showroom car. Maybe PininFarina had something to do with it after all ;D
We also have this radio, wich i was told was very rare too.


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: peteracs on December 24, 2020, 05:07:55 PM
Hi

Just checked the parts book and the fog light bumper was an option for both S1 and S2 pre f/l coupes, also on some other models, not all. No idea on f/l models.

Peter


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: Gerke123 on December 24, 2020, 06:17:22 PM
Thanks Peter, but what does f/l mean? Also, is there a reason why we don't see these rear bumpers around? You would expect to see alot more if it was an option for both s1 and 2.


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: peteracs on December 24, 2020, 09:05:32 PM
Hi

Sorry, f/l means facelift. The Early S2 was very similar to the S1 cars, different engines, but similar interior. In 1977 they introduced the facelift cars with a more modern interior, electronic ignition etc.

Peter


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: frankxhv773t on April 08, 2021, 06:18:47 PM
That radio is a neat unit but something I haven't seen before. I suspect it is either a dealer fit accessory or an after market one. Does it have a speaker in the lower portion beneath the "head unit"?


Title: Re: Rear bumper with an integrated foglight
Post by: A1.6HPE on July 27, 2021, 07:04:39 PM
Thanks Peter, but what does f/l mean? Also, is there a reason why we don't see these rear bumpers around? You would expect to see alot more if it was an option for both s1 and 2.

Hello, just spotted this very interesting topic. 
In the UK, the regulations for rear mounted high-intensity guard lamps were that if a single lamp was fitted it had to be offset to the driver's side of the car. So a centrally mounted unit would not be legal at that time. I think the rule was changed several years later.

Leo