Lancia Beta Forum

Looking for distributor for my HPE 2000i.e. (L-Jetronic). Will distributor from carburator version (1979) fit? Looks pretty similar.

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Tone

You can use the cap and rotor and the mounting is the same BUT the IE distributor has no advance weights or pulse/signal generating pieces inside and it is about half the length. All it does is to distribute the spark to each cylinder in turn as the advance is handled by the ECU and the engine speed signal comes from the sensor on the crank pulley.

That is a complicated way of saying no you cannot use this distributor but owners of VX cars would want this distributor and if you have the amplifier and coil the Montecarlo owners looking to tune their cars with a fast inlet cam might want it. 

Sorry I have no pictures of an IE distributor.

Eric

So I.E. distributor should not have vacuum advance unit on its body?

There are two different ignition systems on ie depending when it was built, not sure how this relates to the distributor but i will check when i have time

My early i.e. (81/82) from a pre digiplex era has no vaccum advance (Marelli SM808GXK). The distributor has the same housing however, just the opening is plugged with plastic cap.

10x, it would be very useful information!

I've never had to deal with the digiplex system, other than when I ripped out the make shift wiring in the engine bay and replaced the loom. I cant remember but before you chuck the vacuum advance, i'm pretty sure that a vacuum pipe went from the distributor to the digiplex ecu, need someone to confirm that though.
If your not running the digiplex system this is the distributor you want...
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If you are then the vacuum advance stays I believe, and i'm not sure if you should have a pick up, but it is still available from a few places online (Big white wiring protection) that connects to the amplifier also pictures.
In answer to your question, if your running the same as mine, you can use yours by removing the spacer/adapter cam end of distributor and fitting a pick up if it hasn't already got one.
Have seen it cheaper somewhere else but this is what you'd need.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-PICK-UP-COIL-LANCIA-BETA-1600-FIAT-124-131-8-4963-1-9936331-/131005688163?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e808c2963 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-PICK-UP-COIL-LANCIA-BETA-1600-FIAT-124-131-8-4963-1-9936331-/131005688163?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e808c2963)

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What are the digiplex signs?

This is the system that my car runs.

This is the digiplex setup, with as I seemed to remember has a vacuum connection on the digiplex unit. If your running the digiplex setup, it's mounted on the bracket for the power steering reservoir on the opposite side to the battery and looks like an ecu.

Tone

I was referring the the Digiplex generation of IE cars and I have part of one of those distributors it is half the height of the earlier one and there is NO vacuum connection point from the distributor or hall pick up as described in my previous reply. However it would be very easy to connect the Digiplex to the inlet manifold vacuum as they did on Strada/Ritmo Abarth cars for the ECU.

Do you have the Digiplex ECU?   

Eric

Will go on a weekend to the garage and see. Not sure - don't remember any stuff near bracket for the power steering reservoir. If i understand right - injected cars don't not have vacuum connection on distributor, both M.Marelli and Digiplex?
 

Tone, digiplex is also Marelli's system. It is newer, mainteanance free digital not analog ignition system. It is reliability is quite questionable however.
As I said before mine has not vacuum connection. However there were also bosch distributors mounted in betas, but I am not sure whether in injected versions.

apologies for slow research on this!

all distibutors on injection or vx are marelli part numbers as follows

ie 82372053 no vac adv
vx 5966496 vac adv 9938278
ie with digiplex 82382056 no vac adv


as Eric said the digiplex dizzy is much shorter and only contains a rotor arm no advance mechanism at all as that is all dealt with by the ignition ecu

the digiplex does appear to have a performance and economy advantage and is paired with an updated L-jetronic ecu.

So the 'vacuum connection' shown on the Digiplex unit on the diagram above connects to somewhere other than the distributor? 

Probably to the digiplex unit?

I've got non-digiplex injection, right?

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And this pick up coil would fit my distributor?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-PICK-UP-COIL-LANCIA-BETA-1600-FIAT-124-131-8-4963-1-9936331-/131005688163?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e808c2963 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-PICK-UP-COIL-LANCIA-BETA-1600-FIAT-124-131-8-4963-1-9936331-/131005688163?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e808c2963)

Wouldn't like to say 100% but looks like it should! the length of the wire varies on these so you need to be sure that it will reach

I believe Bosch agents still carry the internals for this distributor,
Sensor unit and pick up was about £18.

For Bosch dizzy maybe not sure about for marelli, the pickup for marelli has always been a bit pricey

Suddenly saw this on USA motor:

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2000i.e. + vacuum advance unit.

http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=208227&c=193728&i=328430415 (http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=208227&c=193728&i=328430415)

What do you think, may be this new one would fit?

http://www.ebay.it/itm/SPINTEROGENO-FIAT-CROMA-CHT-SM-808-ZX-MAGNETI-MARELLI-/301719483565?hash=item463fe1f4ad (http://www.ebay.it/itm/SPINTEROGENO-FIAT-CROMA-CHT-SM-808-ZX-MAGNETI-MARELLI-/301719483565?hash=item463fe1f4ad)

Yes, on US cars we had limited choice. Early cars, '75-78 were 1800 carbed cars with points and Electronic ignition an option last couple years, with the distributor mounted in the block. 79 we got the 2L but still with a carb and too much emission nonsense giving poor power/performance. I cannot say for certain what dizzy these had. 81 and 82 we got the 2L with the Bosch FI. These all had electronic ignition, with distributor mounted on the end of the cam, and a vacuum advance module on the dizzy with small hose running to carb for vacuum. I believe VX had this same dizzy set up with vacuum advance.  There may have been other offerings and combinations in other markets, but that is what we got here in the states.

In Europe on IE models the dizzy is almost the same but without vacuum advance unit. The opening port is just plugged. There is only centrifugal advancer built inside the dizzy.