Lancia Beta Forum

Hi all
I'm a new poster on here. I'm looking to borrow a hub bearing retainer removal tool for 10 days or so ASAP. Can anybody offer one for me to borrow? I'm willing to pay a loan charge, along with, of course, postage.
Either PM me or send me an email to  richard  (at) craigsonline (dot co dot uk).

Regards
Richard

I have one you're welcome to borrow but...if the retaining ring has been in place for a long time you won't get it out easliy with the tool (if at all). Sometimes the only way is to split them and colapse them.

The tool is of use in fitting the new ones though.

pm me.

Someone borrowed mine and not been able to get in touch but i will need the retaining ring tool too if someone has one i can borrow. It was loaned to Tony Harrison , then he loaned it to someone else.......not a happy bunny....

Just so everyone knows what we're on about

This the one Tony had http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonysphotos/4365576859/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonysphotos/4365576859/#in/photostream/)

And this is the rather less substantial one I got from Bayless http://www.midwest-bayless.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=208227&c=192789&i=250918513 (http://www.midwest-bayless.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=208227&c=192789&i=250918513)  Only $39 but not quite in the same league

Yes Stuart thats mine, .

now I'm feeling really guilty  :'(
I have just spent the 2 hours going through my email inbox, I have another line of inquiry to follow  ???

In case someone recognizes it and has a memory as bad as mine here it is(was)  :-[

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2710/4365576859_338853fd08_z.jpg) 
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4045/4366318820_464bea3025_z.jpg)

I can't help with Mark W's lost tool, but I do know that there's a guy on eBay who specialises in making tools like this for undoing motorcycle swingarms and similar. If dimensions or a drawing could be furnished, I'm sure he could re-manufacture an item like this. I'll edit this post with the eBay seller's Id when I've found it...

<edit> this is the kind of thing he makes for bikes:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260957978942 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260957978942)

I know that the Lancia tool is a lot meatier than this example, but if he has a CNC milling machine and the necessary dimensions, what can't be achieved?

I Have emailed Kev, the guy who makes these.  I will send him a spare lock ring I have and have a new socket made to measure.

Are front and rear the same tool? I know they are different O/Ds

Stuart,

Same internal diameter, only the outside diameter is different. IIRC by 2mm.

As usual, it makes you wonder why they did not just make the front and rear hubs lock rings the same size?

Excellent - something else to be added to Betaboyz range, perhaps?

And just a thought - seeing as the bearing nut is such a b*****d to remove, might it not be an idea to make it a 3/4" drive socket, rather than 1/2" drive?

Thanks Mango

you might have saved my bacon ;), could you put me down for two please Matt

Tony - I've texted you about this just to be sure!

 not many folk have 3/4 drive in their garage so I think the 1/2 is better from a point of view of being more universally useful

Fair point, but a 3/4" breaker bar for use with this kind of tool doesn't cost a fortune (around £20 here):

http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=AK731 (http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=AK731)

And a 3/4" breaker bar will transmit a lot more force than a 1/2", and can be used for a variety of jobs. Having said that, I'd be happy to go with the majority view, especially as I've never done the job myself.

I think you can argue for either size personally I use a compressor and my impact gun is 1/2 inch so maybe i am biased! I can't say that at high loads I've found those cheap breaker bars all that confidence inducing,  I use an extendable ratchet set when all else fails (I think it was rolson brand but it's years old now) also 1/2 inch and it has pretty much managed to get anything off eventually  

Yes, know what you mean about cheap tools. After noticing that the breaker bar I had linked to was only 600mm long (same as a 1/2" breaker bar), I checked out the price of a 1000mm long version, also by Sealey. It was over £60. So once you start to put some serious leverage in, the price goes up accordingly...

Just my thoughts on this but my long 3/4" bar has made my life so much easier. Hub nuts, crank nuts and even the notorius bottom ball joints on my 406 coupe. It's much more controlled and I'm not worried about breaking the knuckle as I have previously on 1/2" bars - even good quality ones.

I'd put a 3/4" hole in it - then if you only have a 1/2" bar or impact then a step up adaptor isn't that expensive and those that have larger tools (.......) can use them.

Snigger snigger!!

Chaps

I cheat and use a cordless Milwaukee impact gun with 650Nm of torque it does not matter if I use the 1/2 inch drive it come with or an adaptor to 3/4 as long as they are impact gun material since the chrome vanadium type can explode into shrapnel. I no longer need a 10 feet scaffold pole to losen crank nuts rusted in place over 30 years.

Eric

Doesn't it try and rip your arm off while you're doing it though, Eric? All that torque does have to go somewhere...

When I changed mine, I used a Snap-on 1/2" breaker bar with a scaffolding bar :'(, next time a cheaper 3/4" breaker bar for sure.

Mrs Hawk bought me a new trolley jack a few years ago and it came with 12v impact gun.  Expecting it to be a POS I just stored it in one of my cabinets - only to dig it our when trying to undo a stubborn sprocket nut on a motorcycle.  And it's bloody brilliant.

I power it from a battery booster pack and it hasn't failed (yet) to shift a nut.  They only cost about £30 which is lots cheaper than a decent breaker bar.

Hawk

Maplin do a surprisingly good cheap cordless item and they really are amazing compared to bouncing on long scaffold poles.

Eric